It just dawned on me awhile ago (February apparently) that a very important question has not been asked about child abuse and exploitation in youth organizations.

It came to me while writing a comment in a The American Conservative thread (I have since been banned from commenting on the site). See the full thread for how the exchange developed.

Below, comments in reply to an “American Conservative” article “Downton Archdiocese” by the little Dreher, who wrote: “Leaving aside the theological and moral issues here, it never ceases to amaze me how elites can continue to make the same catastrophic mistakes that have brought such destruction to themselves and to the institutions they lead. It’s not a Catholic thing, specifically; it’s how human institutions tend to operate”

bigKirb says: February 8, 2013 at 4:54 pm

>It’s not a Catholic thing, specifically; it’s how human institutions tend to operate

“well, everybody does it.” But everybody does not do it. Other people learn from their mistakes. Take Penn State. Look what happened to their program when it was discovered that they turned a blind eye to child rape. After all the fallout and scandal, do you think that Penn State would consider, even for the briefest nano-second, employing a convicted child molester? Heck no!”

bones says:

LOL. The same Penn State that, after learning of the allegations against Sandusky in 1998, allowed him free roam and usage of their facilities for the next 14 years? The same Penn State that covered up rape allegations against Sandusky in 2002? The same Penn State that allowed Sandusky to still enjoy that freedom even while a Grand Jury investigation was taking place in 2012?


Well called, bones. And the thing is, we are all still watching the Penn State scandal. Last I heard, Spanier (allegedly guilty) had already been hired in some high-geared consultancy job; the other two, Schultz  and Curley, are on paid leave – all this time and will continue so; is anything going to happen to Sandusky’s wife? she sounds like a major enabler to me; and all the rest of the negligent or corrupt police, university board, etc. are just going to cruise along as always.

Aside from having Sandusky in prison and Paterno exposed as the slime that he was, that’s it.

Over in England:

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper called for “a proper overarching review led by child protection experts into why everyone failed to stop Savile and what should be done now”.

“A myriad of small reviews and inquiries into how it could happen in different hospitals or the BBC are just not enough,” she said.

The Crown Prosecution Service also published a review of a decision in 2009 not to charge Savile with sexual offences in relation to four complaints made to police in Surrey and Sussex.


First, this is the disaster that we have in a society that keeps telling itself that “sexuality is nobody’s business.”

Second, the Saville case is one more example of how difficult it is to estimate how much abuse, molestation, and exploitation happens in society. Because so many people do not talk about their experiences (or in very limited ways) and so much of the violations that happen are covered up and ignored, those intent in minimizing the problem of abuse in society still manage to convince others that “it’s only a very small percentage of adults who abuse,” “the number of victims is very small”… Don’t worry about it, shuffle along, nothing to see here, nothing to be concerned about.

The other question I had along these lines, given the hoopla about the BSA and their “Perversion Files” is: and what about the Girl Scouts? Shouldn’t it also be keeping any such “Perversion Files”? If the BSA is being forced to hand over their files, the same should be done about the Girl Scouts. And why shouldn’t the same be asked of every large youth organization like Big Brothers, etc.?

Clearly, this is information that is of great importance to society. Especially if we want to decrease the problem of cover ups.